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Post by Sykotyk on Dec 7, 2007 23:08:46 GMT -5
Here's the arguments against a playoff:
Season is too long -- That didn't stop them from adding conference championship games, or an annual 12th game.
Hurt the bowls -- And naming one bowl the biggest of them all isn't? By even having a BCS championship game, let alone BCS bowls, you're hurting ALL the bowls.
The kids will miss school -- I-FCS, II, and III all play their playoffs in December during finals. And guess what, most of the kids don't play mid-week, unlike basketball, baseball, etc.
Won't make as much money -- really? So, a true playoff won't make money? How do you explain March Madness? Would schools really make more money having post season exhibition games and using the poll to name a champion result in more money somehow? Remember, the NCAA funds their entire operation from the proceeds of the Men's Tournament, and that's America's second or third favorite sport, overall.
Devalues the regular season -- And Hawaii at 12-0 and snubbed isn't? So, they're to jump ship to a BCS conference to deserve a chance? Same as Boise State? Or the argument that their schedule was weak. Can anybody predict, with several years of forethought, who the good teams will be year to year?
Did OSU know that Washington was going to suck this year as their main non-conference game sandwiched between Texas and USC matchups in 06 and 08?
Only argument they have is they refuse change.
Every argument is illogical and self-serving.
Sykotyk
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Post by 1stDownStorm on Dec 7, 2007 23:14:42 GMT -5
One more argument: some teams will have nothing to play for at the end of the season. I don't think this would be the case. Whether it be for getting the easiest matchups, home field advantage, or just plain making it to the playoffs, there will probably be something for every team to play for in every regular season game.
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Post by frostbite on Dec 7, 2007 23:24:17 GMT -5
Frostbite if you have all the answers why are you not running the NCAA to correct all of the problems. Then when you fix all of that why not try for world peace!!!!!!  just what i expect from this board - you lose an argument so you get defensive and start making it personal. not my fault i researched my facts before i presented them. it was, and still is, a good conversation. if you can't keep up or contribute anything worthwhile, go troll another board. |
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Post by frostbite on Dec 7, 2007 23:27:45 GMT -5
I'd like to see a playoff too. And as I stated before, I have a plan. But I won't post it on here because I'm not interested in seeing another one of my posts dissected line by line by ???BITE. Take the BCS system and  it! frostbite + Dave Hodas =  Maybe just maybe their one in the same.....  christ, same as scobert. if you'd like to continue the debate, i'm more than willing to keep going. like it or not, the bcs is here till at least 2010, so deal with it. present your argument, don't be a troll. |
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Post by frostbite on Dec 7, 2007 23:56:21 GMT -5
the BCS has a tv deal through 2009 and the rose bowl has one through 2013 i think, so we will probably have to wait until at least then for a playoff, IF everyone could agree on a format. the one on bcs-sucks.com is asinine though - theres no possibility of an at-large team even getting in the playoff. are we really saying that a florida atlantic or a central michigan deserve to play for a national title over a missouri or a georgia?
i do not think we will see one AT LEAST until the non-BCS bowls start to dry up and go away. right now, there is no incentive for the big schools to create a playoff: they get just about all their bowl-eligible teams into postseason football. there is not a playoff format that will put eight SEC teams (for example) into the postseason. you simply cannot have it both ways - a playoff AND bowls. its been proposed and shot down many times before
also, right now, they have this big pile of money from the BCS that they share among themselves. if there is a playoff, the pile of money might be bigger, it might not; but the wealth would get shared more evenly. why would the big schools go for that?
there are several economic and political challenges to creating a playoff besides the one I just mentioned. the biggest political roadblock is that university presidents do not want one. since the presidents run the ncaa, it is going to be a pretty hard sell to get one going.
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Post by cavfan on Dec 8, 2007 1:30:01 GMT -5
I hate the BCS it is just stubid but it is all about money so it will never change I'm sure this year has been crazy in college football with all the top teams losing and some conference having championship games and some not but that is the system we are stuck with so be it .
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Post by frostbite on Dec 8, 2007 3:14:21 GMT -5
i was reading another board and the conversation was about how the voters are messing up the process, what with all the preseason polls being so far out of whack and the regional bias'. someone made this comment and i thought it was the perfect. not gonna happen in a million years, but pefect.
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Post by cavfan on Dec 8, 2007 12:20:39 GMT -5
Hell that seems like a good plan but boy would the Irsh be mad  they would have to give up there big money tv deal and such but I do like the plan . |
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Post by scooter on Dec 8, 2007 16:55:40 GMT -5
i was reading another board and the conversation was about how the voters are messing up the process, what with all the preseason polls being so far out of whack and the regional bias'. someone made this comment and i thought it was the perfect. not gonna happen in a million years, but pefect. Now this is something we can agree on! |
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Post by Dragon Fan on Dec 9, 2007 15:36:29 GMT -5
Heck I expected a response from my post, but this has been pretty interesting to read. I think though with all that has been said it is clear that college football, how pure of a sport it is with players, is tainted with greed. It shows that it is not about what fans want, it is about where the money is at. I understand there is no overnight cure/fix for the problem with the BCS but atleast explore the possibility of a playoff system. That way it could be said it was looked at.
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Post by The Grim Reaper on Dec 10, 2007 14:01:09 GMT -5
Frostbite if you have all the answers why are you not running the NCAA to correct all of the problems. Then when you fix all of that why not try for world peace!!!!!! just what i expect from this board - you lose an argument so you get defensive and start making it personal. not my fault i researched my facts before i presented them. it was, and still is, a good conversation. if you can't keep up or contribute anything worthwhile, go troll another board. it is not personal......I don't even know you. But if I wanted to know you there would be a knock on the door. |
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Post by frostbite on Dec 10, 2007 18:35:06 GMT -5
when your post goes off-topic and calls out another poster instead of discussing the topic, thats called making it personal. try to stay on topic big guy and this will be a better board for all of us.
"making it personal" has nothing to do with knowing you personally. this topic appears to have run its course, unless you'd care to contribute some more of your insight.
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Post by The Grim Reaper on Dec 11, 2007 11:04:18 GMT -5
when your post goes off-topic and calls out another poster instead of discussing the topic, thats called making it personal. try to stay on topic big guy and this will be a better board for all of us. "making it personal" has nothing to do with knowing you personally. this topic appears to have run its course, unless you'd care to contribute some more of your insight. You brought up the personal issue first not me. As far as my insight goes its just a game!!!!! I'm sure there is only a small percentage of people in this world the out come of any game will drastically change their life. But when people gloat about there knowledge of something is really a pain in the butt. A few of the "facts" you posted I stand corrected on. But there are a few that are total BS. And again I ask if you know all of this why aren't you running the NCAA or a League some where instead of being on a message board trying to start trouble and run true fans away from a place that they can talk about something they love and enjoy with out all of the politics. |
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Post by frostbite on Dec 11, 2007 13:08:36 GMT -5
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Post by theherohimself on Dec 11, 2007 16:23:38 GMT -5
we all know that we need a to go to a championship tournament if you will....
the powers that be in college football won't allow it though, so we have to live with the BCS. In 1999 Marshall was undefeated and finished 10th. Same with Hawaii this year, Hawaii deserved a shot, didn't get it... it sucks but oh well
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it! 
they would have to give up there big money tv deal and such but I do like the plan .
