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Post by ThatRadioGuy on May 6, 2008 22:48:15 GMT -5
Looked her up...Jessica Burciaga IS smoking hawt...
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Post by chainganged on May 12, 2008 5:16:43 GMT -5
Going back to this topic someone spoke about prices of food, lodging, etc... Just saw today that the Baltimore Ravens are selling their cheerleader calendar for $14.99. Now this is a big market team. The calendar of an AIFA team that I will not mention is selling for $20.
This is so backwards. Based on the big market Ravens, the AIFA's team calendar should be $10.00...
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Post by djh0722 on May 12, 2008 6:14:01 GMT -5
That specific team uses the money to purchase their uniforms and plan fundraisers and travel costs for appearences. If you do not want to spend 20 bucks on the calendar then don't. It is that simple.
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Post by Gene on May 12, 2008 6:18:32 GMT -5
I am not 100% positive on this and maybe one of my fellow EXPRESSFANS can confirm this, but i think our Steam Team sell their calendars for around $15? I think that price is reasonable....
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Post by chainganged on May 12, 2008 6:53:23 GMT -5
djh0722,
Would you want to sell one calendar at $20 or 4 at $10-$15 each? I actually have not seen any calendars sold at all. Now have they sold some? Probably but they would go quicker at $10-$15.
I actually gave $20 and didn't take a calendar. I'm for backing the team 100% but in a marketing/money making sense the price is too high.
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Post by djh0722 on May 12, 2008 7:08:51 GMT -5
I agree with you that the cost is up there a bit, my point is this; there are people quite content with spending the 20 bucks. I am not one of them, but the choice is the consumers to make. They have indeed sold calendars though. If they are not selling them at 20, I can only assume that they will lower the price.
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Post by JustMomma on May 12, 2008 7:23:48 GMT -5
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Post by UnoBomber on May 12, 2008 7:31:02 GMT -5
Wow this thread has gone to hell in a hand basket!
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Post by slocoma on May 12, 2008 7:34:35 GMT -5
Wow this thread has gone to hell in a hand basket! Isn't that how they all end?
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Post by chainganged on May 12, 2008 8:28:44 GMT -5
One thing I do have to admit, is that $20 to look at the beautiful women of the team that Dlh and I are talking about in the calendar is good money spent but would be even better at $10-$15.
Its just hard to be on the outside looking in and trying to help out your team. We all have opinions and we all think we have solutions.
It ticks me off to see very little fan attendance and then I start looking at why this might be, prices, marketing, etc. Its a pity to have a big venue and yet the fans stay away. The first thing that comes to mind for me is prices.
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Post by djh0722 on May 12, 2008 9:50:41 GMT -5
Baltimore is in a precarious situation. They do not have control over costs of concessions. Ticket prices are a bit higher due to the ridiculous cost in taxes to host an event in the city. The city taxes the team on each ticket sold. Even tickets that are comp'd are taxed.
Concessions are so high because the folks that work at the stands are union workers. some arena's let volunteers work the stands at games as a fund-raiser event for a charity. No such luck in the fine city of Baltimore. The costs are passed on to the consumer. Once again, this is not a decision the AIFA/Baltimore Mariners offices made. They do not want to gouge the fans.
The calendars, that price was determined by the dance team. They have to pay for the cost of producing the calendar. Like I said, if they want to sell more calendars, they will lower the price.
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Post by UnoBomber on May 12, 2008 10:16:09 GMT -5
Concession stand workers have a Union? Are there other venues in the surrounding area of Baltimore that could give the Mariners a better situation? And if you can't deal with the arenas, make your own! www.avidoutdoors.com/airsupported.html
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Post by djh0722 on May 12, 2008 10:20:28 GMT -5
Not really. Not if they want to be called the Baltimore Mariners.
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Post by Gene on May 12, 2008 10:22:00 GMT -5
Baltimore is in a precarious situation. They do not have control over costs of concessions. Ticket prices are a bit higher due to the ridiculous cost in taxes to host an event in the city. The city taxes the team on each ticket sold. Even tickets that are comp'd are taxed. Concessions are so high because the folks that work at the stands are union workers. some arena's let volunteers work the stands at games as a fund-raiser event for a charity. No such luck in the fine city of Baltimore. The costs are passed on to the consumer. Once again, this is not a decision the AIFA/Baltimore Mariners offices made. They do not want to gouge the fans. The calendars, that price was determined by the dance team. They have to pay for the cost of producing the calendar. Like I said, if they want to sell more calendars, they will lower the price. This takes us back to the original question of why indoor football might not work in big markets. They struggle enough in the smaller ones, let alone the major ones. It very well might make sense to move them out of that area/arena and look for something outside of the Baltimore area. With those high prices and low attendance it spells disaster and WILL fail as a long term product.
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Post by djh0722 on May 12, 2008 10:27:43 GMT -5
I don't know if that is necessarily true. Baltimore loves football. But it loves winning football. Minor league sports have been successful to some capacity in the area. The Baltimore Blast of the "Major" Indoor soccer league are doing quite well in that arena. It takes a long time to build up a franchises' fan base. While I am appreciative of the league putting a team into the city again, I would like to see someone capable, purchase the team and be able to give their undivided attention to it. Someone with a marketing and ad sales background would be a good idea. However, most of those guys know the high risks owning a team at this level poses. If the person can ramp up sponsorship, things will be just fine.
Longevity can be attained and the team can be quite successful. Win games and market the crap out of the team. I know. I make it sound so easy.
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